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Who's side are you on? Vitaly or gwenyth?
personally I believe that Vitaly is right because the last thing the paladin order needs is more enemies. What do you guys think and why?
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But of course, they aren't. Vitali knows this.
but yeah fuck gwyneth
That being said, I love dark storytelling like this and the direction it's going with Gwenyth becoming more evil-like. Makes me wonder what would be different if Lance was chosen.
But maybe this isn't a bad thing. The Beenu maybe didn't deserve their purge. But the ageless can bring death with them where ever they go. Sure they can mean no harm or be careful but they are diseased and the only cure is a crushed skull. Maybe the grand paladin thinks if he kills off all the ageless. Bopen will stop pretending to be one.
[Historical context]
Unlike the beenu, ageless aggression is well known, seemingly regularly occurring fact that is very well documented, plus if this is indeed a defensive war, then the Order is justified to protect itself against an enemy that literally could be anywhere, anyone (like some sort of attack of the body-snatchers story).
[A known unknown threat]
Also worth noting that this is an extreme measure for a reason, that is the former GP was attacked and killed by a crew of ageless and one of them is literally a living super weapon. So personally, in universe I would worry if there are more bopen-like ageless among them or is he an anomaly. Uncertainty breeds confusion which causes people to take extreme measure to protect themselves against an enemy.
[Fantasy warfare]
While the Purge is an incredibly violent step to take, it is important to see it in context that this is not an ordinary human-human war we can usually relate to, but a war against an enemy that is invisible and incredibly durable, an almost invincible one at that. So you could be a super attuned elven mage, a stocky dwarven brawler or an ancient super badass Grand Paladin that is thought to be unbeatable and yet still fail against this new kind of old enemy. I don't know what Rob is planning for the story but unless the Paladins has some surefire way to identify ageless in a quick and reliable manner, they are disadvantaged as fudge against them. I can't see why would the ageless not utilize cloak n dagger operations when they are perfect for that kind of warfare, which neatly loops back to the main dilemma of not knowing whether your neighbour is gonna kill you in your sleep or not.
[Why not just detain them?]
After Silvermine Mountain, I see no way Gwyneth would gamble on detaining ageless ever, knowing that letting prisoners socialize led to the prison riot. Also the unfairly imprisoned, even if they were innocent, could easily radicalize in such a desperate environment and is a perfect place for idea-exchange. So that is a big no-no, I think. Also, imagine the resources needed to run and defend it against regular spider raids (if S3C1 anything to go by), wouldn't it be clinically pragmatic to just put them out of their misery?
[Acknowledgment aka "The part where I try to save my ass and prove that I'm not a sociopath"]
While these reasons may be brutally coldhearted, I think in context it is a safe assumption to make with the knowledge Gwyneth has on the enemy she faces. I think this is truly the case of where a few rotten apple really spoils the bunch. And I have to admit that I'm not blind to the ironic imagery of a supremacist society committing genocide on an already oppressed social cast out of fear of a loosely related threat that may or may be not utilize said oppressed cast for their own goals is really showing me in a bad light, but this is such a morally ambiguous subject that I don't know if there is a right way per se.
p.s.: made it easier to look at it and less of a wall of text
So? Attacking random other groups of Ageless doesn't sound like a good way to protect yourself and prepare for the coming war. Obviously Gweneth doesn't know about Deadlantis, but still attacking random groups of Ageless is probably the quickest way to ensure that the rest go join Bopen's side.
Of course, Phineas is the one who introduced bone vision, so it could just be his insane rambling, but we SAW him use it, so whether he developed it independently or not, we know detection of the ageless is possible.
Im team Gwenyth though, because spiff is an amazing voice actress, also the ageless currently have way more numbers than the paladins, making them a terrifying, looming time bomb that could blow at any time